relatively minor stuff idk

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You would be much better off reading a better guide, such as this [Practical Guide to Feminization](https://pghrt.diy/){.source-link} or more detailed specialised websites, guides, including sourcing:
- [https://hrtcafe.net/](https://hrtcafe.net/)
- [https://diyhrt.market/](https://diyhrt.market/)
- [https://diyhrt.info/](https://diyhrt.info/)
- [https://diyhrt.wiki/](https://diyhrt.wiki/)
- [https://transfemscience.org/](https://transfemscience.org/)
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If wanting to surgically alter underbust, you can do a Costal cartilage reduction / rib osteotomies. Procedures like Ravitch Procedure were mostly invented for people with pectus excavatum (concave chest), and are quite rare to do for cosmetic reasons, and likely quite expensive.
There is [some discussion of this on reddit](https://old.reddit.com/r/4tran4/comments/1ovhl9b/this_surgery_for_pectus_excavatum_could_possibly/){.source-link} but it's quite uncommon. The only person who seems to do it is Dr Leif Rogers.
There is [some discussion of this on reddit](https://old.reddit.com/r/4tran4/comments/1ovhl9b/this_surgery_for_pectus_excavatum_could_possibly/){.source-link} but it's quite uncommon. The only person who seems to do it is Dr Leif Rogers. For reshaping middle ribs you can also go to Dr Raul Manzaneda in Perú.
### Shoulders
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Here is a non-exhaustive list of surgeons that are talked about sometimes. My research in this area is relatively non-exhastative so DYOR and maybe update this.
#### Surgery order
Before getting FFS, some surgeons reccomend extracting any wisdom teeth (see: [DB article on this](https://deschamps-braly.com/jaw-contouring-ffs-and-wisdom-teeth/){.source-link}), as should you have complications when older (typically in 30s) this could affect results after removal.
If getting a tracheal shave, it can sometimes affect ability to get [VFS](#vocal-feminisation-surgery-vfs) in the future. It is worth discussing with both FFS and VFS surgeons about this.
#### FFS Surgeons
Some famous ones are DB, Keojampa, Mardirossian, Harrison Lee. See [reddit discussion on their styles](https://old.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/comments/1c6dw4j/comment/l018xdj/){.source-link}. In Europe, QQ seems to be the current meta, some are happy with FT but doesn't seem worth the cost. There are others also I guess. I probably should write a better list some time.
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#### Stop and Go method
Some people have considered stopping estrogen temporarily, then restarting is, as a method to try to "reduce estrogen sensitivity".
Some people have considered stopping estrogen temporarily, then restarting is, as a method to try to "recalibrate estrogen sensitivity".
This person tried it and it seemed to work for them:
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- [VoiceTools iOS](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/voice-tools/id1447495900)
### Vocal Feminisation Surgery
### Vocal Feminisation Surgery (VFS)
If wanting permanent results with less voice training, surgery is an option. Note that recovery can be quite difficult (eg: not speaking for 2 weeks - 2 months) and in general one retains more optionality/pitch if one trains.
In addition, one will sitll be required to do some amount of voice training even if you get surgery, otherwise your voice will sound somewhat unnatrual.
In addition, one will still be required to do some amount of voice training even if you get surgery, otherwise your voice will sound somewhat unnatrual.
From Reddit, it seems like [Yeson Voice Center](https://us.yesonvc.com/page/2_4_1.php) in South Korea is the best place to get it done.
From people online, it seems like [Yeson Voice Center](https://us.yesonvc.com/page/2_4_1.php) in South Korea is the best place to get it done.
Here is an overview of some of the main methods.