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<strong>📄 Archived:</strong> 2025-09-18 20:38:28 UTC
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<strong>🔗 Source:</strong> <a href="http://lena.kiev.ua/guestbook/#570">http://lena.kiev.ua/guestbook/#570</a>
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<h1>Гостевая книга Лены</h1>
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<b>570. Name: </b> <a name="570">larissa</a>
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,<b> City: </b> garwood nj
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<p><b>Comments: </b>
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i am a pre op male to female transexual i have recently started taking female
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hormones what i would like to know is at what point should i start to feel
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that i am making progress toward my goal of becominng what i really want tobe
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a woman i made some progess as i have began to develop breasts i have gone
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from being flat chested to a size 38b i was tickled pink getting my first
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training braand i was like a giddy schoolgirl filling a larger size bra i
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just love and adore my soon to be 38c breeasts and my goal is to be a 38d cup
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i wont realy feel that i made progress until that ugly piece of meat betwen
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my legs is cutoffi have been telling friends and family that i can wait to
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get my hole put in i plan on having my sexchange operatiom overseas in europe
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also have been saying that i cant wait to go abroad and come back a broadi
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just simply love it that my breasts bounce swing and jiggle even when i am
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wearing a good support bra<br/>
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<font><i>Lena:</i> If you are concerned only with breasts and
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genitals then you make a clown out of yourself. Until you <b>complete</b>
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facial electrolysis, most people will consider you a man in a dress regardless
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of any size breasts, what is between your legs, clothing and makeup.
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Only after you complete facial electrolysis (takes about 2 years), you'll make
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a real progress toward your goal.
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Despite deceptive advertising, laser and flash-lamp (IPL) hair removal removes
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hair for longer time than plucking but for no more than 1-24 months
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(usually 2-6 months) after last session, no matter how many sessions.
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The only really permanent method of facial hair removal is needle
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electrolysis. Professional electrolysis costs about $20K. You can do it
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by yourself for free. Several members of the
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Russian-language T* mailing list I run cleared their faces by Do-It-Yourself
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electrolysis at home. No device needed at all. How to:
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I got the idea and some tips from Bernadette (docfont@) on the
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unfortunately terminated since then TSDoItYourelfers mailing list,
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I devised even more DIYish :) details.
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Bernadette did it with "Inverness One Touch" device (about $30)
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which consists from 9V battery, variable resistor as current regulator
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and a buzzer (on a simple digital IC) just for convenient count of time.
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The main thing is that it's neither flash, thermolysis nor blend,
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but plain galvanic method, i.e. pure DC, a simple electrochemical process:
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part of water molecules in the body is dissociated to H+ ion (proton)
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and OH- ion, an electron from the needle joins with the H+ ion
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resulting in hydrogen atom, two hydrogen atoms join into hydrogen molecule,
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hydrogen gas bubbles out (too little of it to inflame), OH- ions (i.e. lye)
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remain near the needle (mostly where resistance in lower, i.e. along
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blood vessels), erode follicle and fuse the vessels. Unlike other
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methods of needle electrolysis, galvanic forgives small misses,
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less likely damages skin and gives much higher probability of
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successful killing the follicle on the first try, i.e. way less regrowth.
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Galvanic <b>seems</b> slower (almost a minute per follicle, though really
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it's not slower considering less regrowth) and low-tech, but the real
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reason why pure galvanic is almost never used by professional
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electrologists is that devices for it are too simple and therefore
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unprofitable for device makers and sellers, so they brainwash
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electrologists. Impatient customers add to that and as a result
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endure much more pain. Galvanic not just gives least regrowth and
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least risk of skin damage and equipment is cheapest, galvanic is
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also far less painful.
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Bernadette improved the device by increasing voltage of the battery
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(AC/DC adapter is <b>absolutely not</b> suitable! not just because of
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safety rules, but because AC power supplies not only 50 or 60 Hz,
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but also harmonics and receives radio-frequencies, they easily
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pass through transformers no matter how much electronics
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and cause unnecessary pain, skin irritation, twitches; they also
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smelt tissue during inserting driving the needle past the target),
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but used the same second electrode - a small metallic plate at a side
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of the needle holder touching it after inserting the needle,
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but the touching disturbs needle placement.
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No such devices here, so I devised another, more convenient way:
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no device at all. A 9V battery, a cheap ammeter (about $7 if new),
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three wires (two of them come with the ammeter), a needle in a DIY
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pen-like holder and a stainless steel spoon (or shovel for serving cake)
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as second electrode, that's all, no switch (important), no variable
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resistor, no electronics (though I do know how, my hobby was
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amateur electronics, my speciality in college was electronics,
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I worked as a computer technician etc.). In this case the simpler the better,
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resist the temptation to make improvements. If you haven't an ammeter
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able to measure current up to 1 mA (milliampere) then buy a cheap Chinese
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pocket-sized digital multimeter, for example on eBay (search for
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"pocket digital multimeter", in the search results choose "Sort by:" -
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"Price + Shipping: lowest first", about $7 with free shipping worldwide,
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looking about like <a href="../multimeter.jpg" target="link">this</a>,
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if same then use the bottom two sockets, at the beginning of each session
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rotate the center switch clockwise for 4 clicks to the 2000 position - then
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current strength is shown as integer number in microAmperes;
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at the end of each session turn the switch back to the OFF position).
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Plus of the battery to the
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spoon, it's very important, else you'll give yourself permanent tattoo
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with rust. Minus of the battery to the ammeter, the probe at the end of
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another wire from the ammeter is good as a needle holder: put a 1 cm long
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piece of shrink-wrap plastic tube 3-4 mm in diameter onto the bare metal tip
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of the probe at the end of the wire, insert the thicker part of the needle
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into the same tube, heat the tube with hot air above a small flame,
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the tube tightens and holds the needle.
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<br/>As usual, facial hair must be grown
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for 3-5 mm above skin surface; before and after each session
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disinfect face, fingers and instruments with alcohol. Sit before a
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magnifying mirror (about 10 cm between face and mirror) with
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good lighting with a lamp directly to the face (it's essential),
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place a clock with seconds near the mirror, put the spoon down onto the floor.
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Pluck a couple hairs with tweezers in order to see how deep follicles are
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and remember how much force you have to apply.
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Slid/insert the needle along a hair until the needle reaches the follicle,
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don't pierce a new hole in the skin. Usually you feel resistance when needle
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reaches the follicle, it's enough deep. Needle can pierce follicle - it's
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admissible, but don't push needle more than 2-3 mm deeper than follicle.
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After insertion of the needle, hold it in place and then (not sooner!)
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step by a bare foot on the spoon completing the circuit.
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Unimportant visible effect: the lye reacts with skin oil making a little
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soap, the hydrogen gas makes foam from it, a little white foam bubbles up
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along the needle. Unlike if a switch is used (abrupt change of current),
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the surface of contact between the foot and the spoon increases
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gradually preventing painful jerk. Adjust current strength
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(by surface of the contact between foot and spoon and strength of
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pressing on the spoon) so that after 30-40 seconds of current
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the hair can be pulled out with tweezers effortlessly without resistance
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(unlike plucking), it's a sign that the follicle was killed.
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A hitch (like when plucking) means a miss or insufficient charge,
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the hair with regrow.
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Current strength in microAmperes multiplied to time of passing the current
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in seconds is called "charge" in microCoulombs. Quantity of lye produced
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with the current is directly proportional to charge.
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The charge per hair must be below 20 thousand microCoulombs,
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else skin is damaged (small scars and indentations forever).
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If 20 thousand microCoulombs = 20 milliCoulombs is not enough
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for easy sliding the hair out then that means that you miss the target,
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more precision is needed.
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<br/>First 10-20 hours will be difficult, but you'll master hitting
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the invisible target, it's not rocket science, others managed.
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Suitable training place is front surface of the chin, but not in the
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pit at the center just below the bottom lip (a relatively painful place,
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as well as mustache, especially along the lip and just under the nose,
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but still bearable without anesthetic; other places are practically
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painless). Don't try to train on the body because hairs there
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are thinner and grow at an acute angle to skin surface, much more
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difficult to insert needle along. Next treated hair must be
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at least 3 mm from previous, don't treat every hair in succession,
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skip, else over-treated skin can be damaged. After first 20-30 hours
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(training), treat all mustache (skipping) at each session
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because hair there are most viable and numerous. Don't move needle
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when current is flowing because with current the needle easily
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melts skin through anywhere past the target. You'll bend needle,
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especially at first - don't throw it away, unbend with another
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pair of tweezers with the ends covered with soft plastic tubes.
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After many bendings-unbendings a needle breaks, then take another needle.
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Pain during inserting usually is a sign of a miss - the needle
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pierced pore surface and went past the target. With the galvanic method
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skin usually doesn't need special care except dis-infecting with
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alcohol before and after each session. Try to avoid water on
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treated areas for 3 days if you can. If you can't then
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don't wipe the skin, let it to dry by itself. In case of scabs
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(like after a scratch, just small and round) don't tear scabs off,
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let them to fall off by themselves in order to prevent scars.
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The second electrode (a spoon, shovel or a plate under a foot) must be
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stainless steel, not aluminium. Copper is less preferable because stains skin.
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Ready-made needles can be bought where electrologists buy them.
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For the beginning 0.004" (0.1 mm) diameter needles (sometimes called "size 4")
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seem optimal.
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Needle tip shape is important. A good (probably the best) manufacturer
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is Ballet, google search for:
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<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Ballet+needles%22+OR+%22Ballet+electrolysis%22" target="link">"Ballet needles" OR "Ballet electrolysis"</a><br/>
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Some other manufacturers are <a href="http://sterex.com/Products/Needles.aspx" target="link">Sterex</a>, <a href="http://WYCneedles.com/" target="link">WYC</a>.
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As last resort an about 0.1 mm diameter wire made from stainless steel,
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tungsten or nichrome can be used instead of ready-made needle.
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Or wires from some dead incandescent lamps - not those conducting current
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to the spiral, but thinner wires welded into the glass rod at the center
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buttressing the spiral. Or from some small wire loops
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(often included into sewing needle sets) used for easy inserting
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a thread into a needle eye. Copper wire is unsuitable instead of a needle
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because too pliant. Ready-made needles are way better than a piece of wire.
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<i>- Fri Oct 19 21:56:27 2007 (GMT)</i>
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