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+570. Name: larissa +, City: garwood nj +

Comments: +i am a pre op male to female transexual i have recently started taking female +hormones what i would like to know is at what point should i start to feel +that i am making progress toward my goal of becominng what i really want tobe +a woman i made some progess as i have began to develop breasts i have gone +from being flat chested to a size 38b i was tickled pink getting my first +training braand i was like a giddy schoolgirl filling a larger size bra i +just love and adore my soon to be 38c breeasts and my goal is to be a 38d cup +i wont realy feel that i made progress until that ugly piece of meat betwen +my legs is cutoffi have been telling friends and family that i can wait to +get my hole put in i plan on having my sexchange operatiom overseas in europe +also have been saying that i cant wait to go abroad and come back a broadi +just simply love it that my breasts bounce swing and jiggle even when i am +wearing a good support bra
+Lena: If you are concerned only with breasts and +genitals then you make a clown out of yourself. Until you complete +facial electrolysis, most people will consider you a man in a dress regardless +of any size breasts, what is between your legs, clothing and makeup. +Only after you complete facial electrolysis (takes about 2 years), you'll make +a real progress toward your goal. +Despite deceptive advertising, laser and flash-lamp (IPL) hair removal removes +hair for longer time than plucking but for no more than 1-24 months +(usually 2-6 months) after last session, no matter how many sessions. +The only really permanent method of facial hair removal is needle +electrolysis. Professional electrolysis costs about $20K. You can do it +by yourself for free. Several members of the +Russian-language T* mailing list I run cleared their faces by Do-It-Yourself +electrolysis at home. No device needed at all. How to: +

+I got the idea and some tips from Bernadette (docfont@) on the +unfortunately terminated since then TSDoItYourelfers mailing list, +I devised even more DIYish :) details. +Bernadette did it with "Inverness One Touch" device (about $30) +which consists from 9V battery, variable resistor as current regulator +and a buzzer (on a simple digital IC) just for convenient count of time. +The main thing is that it's neither flash, thermolysis nor blend, +but plain galvanic method, i.e. pure DC, a simple electrochemical process: +part of water molecules in the body is dissociated to H+ ion (proton) +and OH- ion, an electron from the needle joins with the H+ ion +resulting in hydrogen atom, two hydrogen atoms join into hydrogen molecule, +hydrogen gas bubbles out (too little of it to inflame), OH- ions (i.e. lye) +remain near the needle (mostly where resistance in lower, i.e. along +blood vessels), erode follicle and fuse the vessels. Unlike other +methods of needle electrolysis, galvanic forgives small misses, +less likely damages skin and gives much higher probability of +successful killing the follicle on the first try, i.e. way less regrowth. +Galvanic seems slower (almost a minute per follicle, though really +it's not slower considering less regrowth) and low-tech, but the real +reason why pure galvanic is almost never used by professional +electrologists is that devices for it are too simple and therefore +unprofitable for device makers and sellers, so they brainwash +electrologists. Impatient customers add to that and as a result +endure much more pain. Galvanic not just gives least regrowth and +least risk of skin damage and equipment is cheapest, galvanic is +also far less painful. +Bernadette improved the device by increasing voltage of the battery +(AC/DC adapter is absolutely not suitable! not just because of +safety rules, but because AC power supplies not only 50 or 60 Hz, +but also harmonics and receives radio-frequencies, they easily +pass through transformers no matter how much electronics +and cause unnecessary pain, skin irritation, twitches; they also +smelt tissue during inserting driving the needle past the target), +but used the same second electrode - a small metallic plate at a side +of the needle holder touching it after inserting the needle, +but the touching disturbs needle placement. +No such devices here, so I devised another, more convenient way: +no device at all. A 9V battery, a cheap ammeter (about $7 if new), +three wires (two of them come with the ammeter), a needle in a DIY +pen-like holder and a stainless steel spoon (or shovel for serving cake) +as second electrode, that's all, no switch (important), no variable +resistor, no electronics (though I do know how, my hobby was +amateur electronics, my speciality in college was electronics, +I worked as a computer technician etc.). In this case the simpler the better, +resist the temptation to make improvements. If you haven't an ammeter +able to measure current up to 1 mA (milliampere) then buy a cheap Chinese +pocket-sized digital multimeter, for example on eBay (search for +"pocket digital multimeter", in the search results choose "Sort by:" - +"Price + Shipping: lowest first", about $7 with free shipping worldwide, +looking about like this, +if same then use the bottom two sockets, at the beginning of each session +rotate the center switch clockwise for 4 clicks to the 2000 position - then +current strength is shown as integer number in microAmperes; +at the end of each session turn the switch back to the OFF position). +Plus of the battery to the +spoon, it's very important, else you'll give yourself permanent tattoo +with rust. Minus of the battery to the ammeter, the probe at the end of +another wire from the ammeter is good as a needle holder: put a 1 cm long +piece of shrink-wrap plastic tube 3-4 mm in diameter onto the bare metal tip +of the probe at the end of the wire, insert the thicker part of the needle +into the same tube, heat the tube with hot air above a small flame, +the tube tightens and holds the needle. +
As usual, facial hair must be grown +for 3-5 mm above skin surface; before and after each session +disinfect face, fingers and instruments with alcohol. Sit before a +magnifying mirror (about 10 cm between face and mirror) with +good lighting with a lamp directly to the face (it's essential), +place a clock with seconds near the mirror, put the spoon down onto the floor. +Pluck a couple hairs with tweezers in order to see how deep follicles are +and remember how much force you have to apply. +Slid/insert the needle along a hair until the needle reaches the follicle, +don't pierce a new hole in the skin. Usually you feel resistance when needle +reaches the follicle, it's enough deep. Needle can pierce follicle - it's +admissible, but don't push needle more than 2-3 mm deeper than follicle. +After insertion of the needle, hold it in place and then (not sooner!) +step by a bare foot on the spoon completing the circuit. +Unimportant visible effect: the lye reacts with skin oil making a little +soap, the hydrogen gas makes foam from it, a little white foam bubbles up +along the needle. Unlike if a switch is used (abrupt change of current), +the surface of contact between the foot and the spoon increases +gradually preventing painful jerk. Adjust current strength +(by surface of the contact between foot and spoon and strength of +pressing on the spoon) so that after 30-40 seconds of current +the hair can be pulled out with tweezers effortlessly without resistance +(unlike plucking), it's a sign that the follicle was killed. +A hitch (like when plucking) means a miss or insufficient charge, +the hair with regrow. +Current strength in microAmperes multiplied to time of passing the current +in seconds is called "charge" in microCoulombs. Quantity of lye produced +with the current is directly proportional to charge. +The charge per hair must be below 20 thousand microCoulombs, +else skin is damaged (small scars and indentations forever). +If 20 thousand microCoulombs = 20 milliCoulombs is not enough +for easy sliding the hair out then that means that you miss the target, +more precision is needed. +
First 10-20 hours will be difficult, but you'll master hitting +the invisible target, it's not rocket science, others managed. +Suitable training place is front surface of the chin, but not in the +pit at the center just below the bottom lip (a relatively painful place, +as well as mustache, especially along the lip and just under the nose, +but still bearable without anesthetic; other places are practically +painless). Don't try to train on the body because hairs there +are thinner and grow at an acute angle to skin surface, much more +difficult to insert needle along. Next treated hair must be +at least 3 mm from previous, don't treat every hair in succession, +skip, else over-treated skin can be damaged. After first 20-30 hours +(training), treat all mustache (skipping) at each session +because hair there are most viable and numerous. Don't move needle +when current is flowing because with current the needle easily +melts skin through anywhere past the target. You'll bend needle, +especially at first - don't throw it away, unbend with another +pair of tweezers with the ends covered with soft plastic tubes. +After many bendings-unbendings a needle breaks, then take another needle. +Pain during inserting usually is a sign of a miss - the needle +pierced pore surface and went past the target. With the galvanic method +skin usually doesn't need special care except dis-infecting with +alcohol before and after each session. Try to avoid water on +treated areas for 3 days if you can. If you can't then +don't wipe the skin, let it to dry by itself. In case of scabs +(like after a scratch, just small and round) don't tear scabs off, +let them to fall off by themselves in order to prevent scars. +The second electrode (a spoon, shovel or a plate under a foot) must be +stainless steel, not aluminium. Copper is less preferable because stains skin. +Ready-made needles can be bought where electrologists buy them. +For the beginning 0.004" (0.1 mm) diameter needles (sometimes called "size 4") +seem optimal. +Needle tip shape is important. A good (probably the best) manufacturer +is Ballet, google search for: +
+"Ballet needles" OR "Ballet electrolysis"
+Some other manufacturers are Sterex, WYC. +As last resort an about 0.1 mm diameter wire made from stainless steel, +tungsten or nichrome can be used instead of ready-made needle. +Or wires from some dead incandescent lamps - not those conducting current +to the spiral, but thinner wires welded into the glass rod at the center +buttressing the spiral. Or from some small wire loops +(often included into sewing needle sets) used for easy inserting +a thread into a needle eye. Copper wire is unsuitable instead of a needle +because too pliant. Ready-made needles are way better than a piece of wire. +


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