219 lines
17 KiB
HTML
219 lines
17 KiB
HTML
<meta charset='utf-8'>
|
||
<base target='_blank'>
|
||
|
||
<style>
|
||
body{font-family:system-ui,sans-serif;max-width:50rem;margin:2rem auto;line-height:1.6;padding:1rem}
|
||
img,iframe{max-width:100%}
|
||
.post-content{background:#f9f9f9;padding:1rem;border-radius:5px;margin:1rem 0}
|
||
.archive-header{background:#f0f8ff;border:1px solid #e0e0e0;border-radius:5px;padding:0.75rem;margin-bottom:1rem;font-size:0.9rem}
|
||
.archive-info{margin-bottom:0.5rem;color:#666}
|
||
.archive-source{color:#666}
|
||
.archive-header a{color:#007acc;text-decoration:none}
|
||
.archive-header a:hover{text-decoration:underline}
|
||
@media (prefers-color-scheme: dark) {
|
||
.archive-header{background:#1a1a2e;border-color:#333;color:#e0e0e0}
|
||
.archive-info, .archive-source{color:#ccc}
|
||
.archive-header a{color:#66b3ff}
|
||
}
|
||
</style>
|
||
|
||
<div class="archive-header">
|
||
<div class="archive-info">
|
||
<strong>📄 Archived:</strong> 2025-08-09 22:31:21 UTC
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div class="archive-source">
|
||
<strong>🔗 Source:</strong> <a href="https://old.reddit.com/r/Splendida/comments/n9ob7l/research_on_slimming_cream/">https://old.reddit.com/r/Splendida/comments/n9ob7l/research_on_slimming_cream/</a>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
<script>
|
||
// Archive metadata for cache management
|
||
window.archiveData = {
|
||
url: 'https://old.reddit.com/r/Splendida/comments/n9ob7l/research_on_slimming_cream/',
|
||
archivedAt: "2025-08-09T22:31:21.195820+00:00Z",
|
||
timestamp: 1754778681195
|
||
};
|
||
</script>
|
||
<hr>
|
||
<h1>Research on slimming cream</h1>
|
||
<p><strong>r/Splendida</strong> • by u/sculptedmermaid • 29 points</p>
|
||
<div class='post-content'><div class="md"><p>I just heard of aminophylline from reading Tim Ferris blog. Using an n of 1 he tried it on one thigh and not the other and that thigh reduced in size. </p>
|
||
<p><a href="https://tim.blog/2011/01/16/spot-reduction-revisited-removing-stubborn-thigh-fat/">https://tim.blog/2011/01/16/spot-reduction-revisited-removing-stubborn-thigh-fat/</a></p>
|
||
<p>Below are several peer reviewed studies that show it’s efficacy (edit - and that’s the only reason I’m sharing this don’t downvote me the science shows it helps. Two groups had a exercise regimen and the group that used the cream lost more circumference than the placebo group.)
|
||
FYI this ingredient is contraindicated for asthma. </p>
|
||
<p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30456780/">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30456780/</a></p>
|
||
<p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/875512259701300209?journalCode=pmta">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/875512259701300209?journalCode=pmta</a> </p>
|
||
<p><a href="https://dom-pubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1463-1326.2006.00600.x?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false">https://dom-pubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1463-1326.2006.00600.x?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false</a></p>
|
||
<p>There are links to several studies and discussions on this forum: <a href="https://forums.t-nation.com/t/topical-fat-loss/164469/4">https://forums.t-nation.com/t/topical-fat-loss/164469/4</a></p>
|
||
<p>I was skeptical but if you try it (along with exercise) worst case it was a waste of $...</p>
|
||
</div></div>
|
||
<hr>
|
||
<h2>Comments</h2>
|
||
|
||
<div style="margin-left: 0px; border-left: 3px solid #ddd; padding: 10px; margin: 10px 0; background: #fafafa;">
|
||
<div style="font-size: 0.9em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">
|
||
<strong>u/[deleted]</strong> • 40 points
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div>
|
||
<div class="md"><p>There are no quick fixes to “slimming” that require little to no effort and have significant results. In the study, both the aminophylline and the placebo group had a walking regimen (leg workout) and CALORIC DEFICIT that lead to results. Both groups had very similar results.
|
||
If you want to be slimmer, a caloric deficit is the way. Working out is for toning- you can’t exercise away a bad diet. Want to level up? Put in the effort or get surgery. There are no shortcuts. Worst case scenario is also not wasted $ when it comes to WL drugs.</p>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
|
||
<div style="margin-left: 20px; border-left: 3px solid #eee; padding: 10px; margin: 10px 0; background: #fafafa;">
|
||
<div style="font-size: 0.9em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">
|
||
<strong>u/TenthPlanet-</strong> • 13 points
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div>
|
||
<div class="md"><p>Did I misread/misinterpret the results?</p>
|
||
<p>Particularly on the study related to waist circumference, the BMI reduction was the same between groups but the aminophylline group had an 11 +/- 1cm waist reduction compared to 5.0 +/- 0.6cm in the control. That is definitely a significant difference!</p>
|
||
<p>What I take away from the study is that while exercise and calorie deficit is still required to lose the weight, this cream helps proportionately more fat be lost from the stomach.</p>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
|
||
<div style="margin-left: 40px; border-left: 3px solid #eee; padding: 10px; margin: 10px 0; background: #fafafa;">
|
||
<div style="font-size: 0.9em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">
|
||
<strong>u/darthemofan</strong> • 7 points
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div>
|
||
<div class="md"><blockquote>
|
||
<p>What I take away from the study is that while exercise and calorie deficit is still required to lose the weight, this cream helps proportionately more fat be lost from the stomach.</p>
|
||
</blockquote>
|
||
<p>Yes, science works. Celebs wont be using that bc they aren't risk takers. They want safety and known good results backed by years of experience.</p>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
|
||
<div style="margin-left: 60px; border-left: 3px solid #eee; padding: 10px; margin: 10px 0; background: #fafafa;">
|
||
<div style="font-size: 0.9em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">
|
||
<strong>u/TenthPlanet-</strong> • 4 points
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div>
|
||
<div class="md"><p>Exactly. I'm not sure how many studies there are on aminophylline/targeted weight loss, but a super quick look through the literature only shows a handful since the 21st century. </p>
|
||
<p>I highly doubt any beauty expert would be recommending a treatment with only a few studies backing it just from fear of repercussions if it doesnt work/goes wrong! </p>
|
||
<p>Also even celebrities cant have a treatment before its invented. Aminophylline for targeted fat removal is relatively new and the research on it seems to be slow.</p>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
|
||
<div style="margin-left: 80px; border-left: 3px solid #eee; padding: 10px; margin: 10px 0; background: #fafafa;">
|
||
<div style="font-size: 0.9em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">
|
||
<strong>u/darthemofan</strong> • 3 points
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div>
|
||
<div class="md"><blockquote>
|
||
<p>Exactly. I'm not sure how many studies there are on aminophylline/targeted weight loss, but a super quick look through the literature only shows a handful since the 21st century. </p>
|
||
</blockquote>
|
||
<p>Yeah it's just super new so most ppl don't know yet. But like you, I trust science :) </p>
|
||
<blockquote>
|
||
<p>Also even celebrities cant have a treatment before its invented. Aminophylline for targeted fat removal is relatively new and the research on it seems to be slow.</p>
|
||
</blockquote>
|
||
<p>I'm not super familiar with it, but more with the litterature behid caffeine, and I think you are on something.</p>
|
||
<p>I just posted some links for you if you want to go on with your plan!</p>
|
||
<p>I'm a bit busy ATM but if you want to make your own DIY caffeine topical I'll be happy to help!</p>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
|
||
<div style="margin-left: 100px; border-left: 3px solid #eee; padding: 10px; margin: 10px 0; background: #fafafa;">
|
||
<div style="font-size: 0.9em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">
|
||
<strong>u/sculptedmermaid</strong> • 7 points
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div>
|
||
<div class="md"><p>bodybuilders actually are the ones ahead of the curve on all these things not celebrities.</p>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
|
||
<div style="margin-left: 120px; border-left: 3px solid #eee; padding: 10px; margin: 10px 0; background: #fafafa;">
|
||
<div style="font-size: 0.9em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">
|
||
<strong>u/Fabulous-Appeal-6885</strong> • 1 points
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div>
|
||
<div class="md"><p>Any update?</p>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
|
||
<div style="margin-left: 100px; border-left: 3px solid #eee; padding: 10px; margin: 10px 0; background: #fafafa;">
|
||
<div style="font-size: 0.9em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">
|
||
<strong>u/TenthPlanet-</strong> • 3 points
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div>
|
||
<div class="md"><p>You're an angel I would absolutely love help with that!</p>
|
||
<p>P.s I just read your other comment and was so suprised! Liposomes are in my field of research (nanoscience)! I'll have fun reading through those studies tonight :)</p>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
|
||
<div style="margin-left: 20px; border-left: 3px solid #eee; padding: 10px; margin: 10px 0; background: #fafafa;">
|
||
<div style="font-size: 0.9em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">
|
||
<strong>u/Normal_Ad2456</strong> • 13 points
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div>
|
||
<div class="md"><p>True, if there was something so simple and easy, all those rich celebrities such as Oprah, Adele, Rihanna etc wouldn’t be struggling with their weight for decades. If they don’t have the fix, then it probably doesn’t exist.</p>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
|
||
<div style="margin-left: 20px; border-left: 3px solid #eee; padding: 10px; margin: 10px 0; background: #fafafa;">
|
||
<div style="font-size: 0.9em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">
|
||
<strong>u/sculptedmermaid</strong> • 4 points
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div>
|
||
<div class="md"><p>I think that goes without saying!</p>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
|
||
<div style="margin-left: 0px; border-left: 3px solid #ddd; padding: 10px; margin: 10px 0; background: #fafafa;">
|
||
<div style="font-size: 0.9em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">
|
||
<strong>u/darthemofan</strong> • 7 points
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div>
|
||
<div class="md"><p>Interesting, I've heard the same on transdermal caffein (in the study you quoted, it's not just aminophylline)</p>
|
||
<p>I had made a post with recipes, just can't find it ATM.</p>
|
||
<p>But check</p>
|
||
<p>"Non-ionic surfactant based vesicular drug delivery system for topical delivery of caffeine for treatment of cellulite: design, formulation, characterization, histological anti-cellulite activity, and pharmacokinetic evaluation. " <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28956468/">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28956468/</a> </p>
|
||
<blockquote>
|
||
<p>Cellulite is a common topographical alteration where skin acquires an orange peel or mattress appearance with alterations in adipose tissue and microcirculation. This work aims to develop and evaluate a topical niosomal gel formulae with good permeation to reach the subcutaneous fat layer. Several caffeine niosomal dispersions were prepared and incorporated into gel formulae using Carbopol 940 polymer, chemical penetration enhancers, and iontophoresis, then the prepared gels were applied onto the skin of rats and anticellulite activity of caffeine from the prepared gels compared to that of the commercial product Cellu Destock® was evaluated by histological study of the skin and measurement of plasma level of caffeine passing through the skin using liquid chromatography (LC/MS-MS). Results of histology revealed reduction of size and thickness of fatty layer of rat skin in the following order: FVII > FXIV > Cellu Destock® > FVII + Iontophoresis > FXIV + Iontophoresis. Pharmacokinetic results of caffeine in plasma revealed that Cmax, Tmax, and AUC0-12h decreased in the following order: FXIV > FVII > Cellu Destock®. These results conclude that incorporation of caffeine niosomal dispersion into gel matrix with penetration enhancers and iontophoresis resulted in improvement in penetration of caffeine through the skin into the underlying fatty layer in treatment of cellulite.</p>
|
||
</blockquote>
|
||
<p>"Anti-obesity effect of a novel caffeine-loaded dissolving microneedle patch in high-fat diet-induced obese C57BL/6J mice." <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28389409/">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28389409/</a></p>
|
||
<blockquote>
|
||
<p>Natural products such as caffeine have been found to be effective in reducing body weight through lipolysis. Here, we report the successful loading of caffeine onto dissolving microneedle following inhibition of its crystal growth by hyaluronic acid (HA), the matrix material of the dissolving microneedle (DMN). Further, the anti-obesity activity of caffeine was evaluated in high-fat diet-induced obese C57BL/6J mice. After 6weeks of caffeine loaded dissolving microneedle patch (CMP) administration, lipolysis improved significantly as shown by leptin and adiponectin activity, which resulted in considerable weight loss of about 12.8±0.75% in high-fat diet-induced obese mice. Comparison of the levels of triglyceride, total cholesterol, high-density lipoprotein (HDL)-cholesterol, and low-density lipoprotein (LDL)-cholesterol after CMP administration with the initial levels in obese mice indicated significant anti-obesity activity of CMP. These findings suggested that a novel CMP with an increased amount of caffeine loaded onto DMN has therapeutic activity against obesity. </p>
|
||
</blockquote>
|
||
<p>"Improvement of a slimming cream's efficacy using a novel fabric as a transdermal drug delivery system: An in vivo and in vitro study " - <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32266024/">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32266024/</a></p>
|
||
<blockquote>
|
||
<p>Penetration of any compound into the body from the outside is prevented primarily by the corneal layer of the epidermis. The only way to circumvent the properties of the corneal layer is to disrupt it. Currently, transdermal systems can currently only deliver drugs that are of low molecular weight. The purpose of the present study was to assess the improvement of the slimming cream's efficacy using a novel fabric, with the aim of developing an improved method for transdermal drug delivery. The current study was conducted on four groups of guinea pigs. The control group was untreated, whereas the test groups were treated with either slimming cream and no fabric, slimming cream with 100% cotton fabric or slimming cream with the novel fabric. Ultrasound and microscopic histological analysis were used to assess animals. The results demonstrated that compared with the other groups, the novel fabric group demonstrated the greatest reductions in fat layer thickness, adipocyte size and number and proliferator-activated receptor-γ levels in adipose tissue. Furthermore, the novel fabric also enhanced the transdermal delivery of rhodamine B base and caffeine penetration compared with the control fabric (3.18-fold). In conclusion, the results of the present study demonstrated that the novel fabric can potentially be used to enhance transdermal drug delivery. </p>
|
||
</blockquote>
|
||
<p>If you want to do that, I'd suggest skipping aminophylline, yohimbine, carnitine (etc) and just making niosomes with a caffeine powder off amazon - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niosome">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niosome</a> as there's a lot of evidence in favor of topical caffeine causing fat loss (and little contra indications for coffee lol)</p>
|
||
<p>If you want to learn how to homebrew, check <a href="/r/diybeauty">r/diybeauty</a> <a href="/r/estrogel">r/estrogel</a> and <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24220497/">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24220497/</a> <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27145899/">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27145899/</a> ; you don't need a lot of equipment if you stick to liposomes/ethosomes/niosomes - except maybe an ultrasound jewelry cleaner.</p>
|
||
<p>Google for the Mozafari method and its adaptations, it can be a bit ghetto but it works at home with limited supplies and equipment!</p>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
|
||
<div style="margin-left: 20px; border-left: 3px solid #eee; padding: 10px; margin: 10px 0; background: #fafafa;">
|
||
<div style="font-size: 0.9em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">
|
||
<strong>u/lily_2020</strong> • 2 points
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div>
|
||
<div class="md"><p>Hello can you elborate more
|
||
I have hard tike understanding
|
||
So caffeine rubbing topically will cause fat loss
|
||
And ho to do it</p>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
|
||
<div style="margin-left: 40px; border-left: 3px solid #eee; padding: 10px; margin: 10px 0; background: #fafafa;">
|
||
<div style="font-size: 0.9em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">
|
||
<strong>u/demonette55</strong> • 1 points
|
||
</div>
|
||
<div>
|
||
<div class="md"><p>I’m a little late to the party but am also interested in this!</p>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|
||
</div>
|