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 In general, if you are new, the order I would reccomend is approximately:
 
-1. Start trying to do [gamete storage](#gamete-storage) (optional)
+1. Start trying to do [gamete storage](#preserving-fertility-pre-hrt)
 2. Start [permanent hair removal](#body-hair)
 3. Once gamete storage done, [start HRT](#hormone-replacement-therapy-hrt)
 4. Do [voice training](#voice)
@@ -46,13 +46,6 @@ You would be much better off reading a better guide, such as this [Practical Gui
 - [https://diyhrt.wiki/](https://diyhrt.wiki/)
 - [https://transfemscience.org/](https://transfemscience.org/)
 
-#### Gamete storage
-
-You will probably lose fertility if you start HRT. If you potentially want to have kids, you should probably do gamete storage prior to starting. (If starting old enough, it is usually possible to regain fertility by temporarily stopping hrt for 3-6months but sometimes it takes longer). 
-
-You can read some [vague notes here](/sources/_gamete_storage.html){.source-link} if going down this path.
-If you are doing gamete storage, you may be able to get some limited feminizing effects before storage (see [some ideas from ChatGPT](/sources/chatgpt_no_hrt.html){.source-link}), or doing [Waist training](#waist-training) or similar, but generally most results come from HRT.
-
 ### Home-brewing
 
 In terms of safety, the general wisdom is that: pharmaceutical grade > reputable home-brewer > personally home-brewing.
@@ -67,7 +60,7 @@ Weight Cycling is the process of repetitively gaining and subsequently losing we
 
 Typically when on HRT, it takes a long time for fat to redistribute to the desired places. The turnover rate for adipocyte cells at a constant bodyweight is about 10% per year, with half of the adipocytes being replaced every ~8.3 years on average. 
 
-This naive estimate is misleading, and studies seem to find redistribution effects way earlier than you'd expect if it acted via turnover. But some still suggest that weight cycling when on HRT can lead to getting results sooner.
+Some have suggested that weight cycling when on HRT can lead to getting results sooner.
 
 Links:
 
@@ -95,18 +88,7 @@ Waterfasting works for some (ie: do not eat for multiple days in a row, only hav
 such as Psyllium Husk or Glucomannan are effective at filling up the stomach/digestive tract and promoting a feeling of fullness, reducing appetite and promoting weight loss. 
 
 #### GLP-1 Agonists
-There are various GLP-1 receptor agonists drugs like semaglutide, liraglutide, dulaglutide, exenatide, and tirzepatide. These promote weight loss through increasing insulin release, decreasing insulin resistance and decreasing excessive glucagon release. Their biggest downsides include very high price if gotten through traditional medical channels, and the only viable method of administration being injection. My vibe-based understanding is that newer drugs are strictly better, and mostly either get fewer side effects for similar results, or get similar side effects for better results. Read more in links
-
-Here are some guides:
-
-- [Coparision of sources of GLP Drugs](https://www.finnrick.com/)
-- [Long post discussing GLP Drugs](https://www.cremieux.xyz/p/how-to-get-cheap-ozempic){.source-link}
-- [Sleep, Diet, Exercise and GLP-1 Drugs](https://thezvi.substack.com/p/sleep-diet-exercise-and-glp-1-drugs){.source-link}
-
-For some discussion on people's experiences, you can read online. Read for example:
-
-- [30 days on retatrutide](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/mLvek6a9G86EnhJqH/30-days-of-retatrutide){.source-link}
-- [a 9-week trip on retatrutide](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/J8nvbu5AFqR5ysSDR/a-9-week-trip-on-retatrutide){.source-link}
+There are various GLP-1 receptor agonists drugs like semaglutide, liraglutide, dulaglutide, exenatide, and tirzepatide. These promote weight loss through increasing insulin release, decreasing insulin resistance and decreasing excessive glucagon release. Their biggest downsides include very high price and the only viable RoA being injection.
 
 #### Corset diet. 
 
@@ -265,10 +247,8 @@ For larger glutes, hip thrust or squats work pretty well. I also like to throw i
 
 ### Weight gain supplements
 
-#### Thiazolidinediones (TZDs)
-One can take TZDs, most commonly Pioglitazone or "pio", though there exists others such as Rosiglitazone.
-
-"Pio" is an anti-diabetic medication that activates PPAR-gamma systemically, reducing insulin resistance, gluconeogenesis and overall blood sugar. High insulin resistance in transgender females is associated with android fat distribution/higher WHR. It has been shown to lower visceral fat and WHR even in patients who’s overall BMI remained the same.
+#### Pioglitazone
+"pio" is an anti-diabetic medication that activates PPAR-gamma systemically, reducing insulin resistance, gluconeogenesis and overall blood sugar. High insulin resistance in transgender females is associated with android fat distribution/higher WHR. It has been shown to lower visceral fat and WHR even in patients who’s overall BMI remained the same.
 
 It seems to protect subcutaneous fat in a way similar to estrogen. There has even been one documented case of pioglitazone use to achieve female fat distribution in a transgender patient in the medical literature. The drug would probably be beneficial regardless of whether you are cycling or not.
 
@@ -384,9 +364,7 @@ See [Reddit wiki](https://old.reddit.com/r/TransSurgeriesWiki/wiki/other#wiki_ri
 
 #### Rib removal surgery
 
-I generally do not reccomend this unless you really want it. You may be able to achieve a better shape, but your ribs exist to protect your vital organs, and removing them stops them from being able to do so. You also are likely to get significant scars on your torso. The shape you get is probably better than you would get from waist narrowing surgery.
-
-#### 
+I generally do not reccomend this. You may be able to achieve a better shape, but your ribs exist to protect your vital organs, and removing them stops them from being able to do so. 
 
 ### Shoulders
 
@@ -486,16 +464,6 @@ Help when skin barrier is damaged
 
 * u/darthemofan: ["What to do when you've damaged your skin barrier?"](https://old.reddit.com/r/skinwhitening/comments/1bet4iv/what_to_do_when_youve_damaged_your_skin_barrier/){.source-link}
 
-#### laser resurfacing
-todo: write this
-
-#### microneedling
-todo: write this
-
-#### chemical peels
-(eg: TCA Cross)
-todo: write this
-
 #### Red light therapy
 
 Some early results says it helps.
@@ -532,7 +500,6 @@ Here is a relatively good starting guide to FFS:
 FFS can get quite expensive quite quickly, and there are some surgeons more reputable than others, but no obvious picks. It is difficult to find surgeons who are well known to be good, have reasonable waiting times, and have reasonably prices. One must trade off on some of these. It can also be difficult to compare, as it is much more custom for different people.
 
 
-
 ## Body Hair
 
 There are a few main methods of hair removal:
@@ -551,9 +518,7 @@ This can lighten and thin out the hair somewhat, also temporary
 
 #### Laser Hair Removal
 
-This is more peramanent than other methods. It involves shining very high intensity light at your skin to damage your hair follicles with lasers.
-Typical starter pack is to do ~8 sessions spaced apart by 4 weeks (though for many it takes much longer, 12-20 sessions).
-Quality of results depends a lot on skin type and hair colour. Generally, dark hair + light skin works the best.
+This is more peramanent than other methods, and involves damaging your hair follicles with lasers. Typical is to do ~8 sessions spaced apart by 4 weeks. Depends a lot on skin type and hair colour. Dark hair + light skin works the best. 
 
 Still requires top ups after the 8 sessions.
 
@@ -562,16 +527,9 @@ Most find the pain tollerable / not that bad, but if you have particularly sensi
 - [reddit post on anesthetic creams](https://old.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/ewhy0b/psa_if_you_do_laser_or_electrolysis_get/){.source-link}
 - [reddit post on microneedling also discussing anesthetic creams](https://old.reddit.com/r/vindicta30plus/comments/1blaz1l/microneedling_a_review_and_how_do_to_that_at_home/){.source-link}
 
-<!-- probably worth adding some more details here -->
-
 #### Electrolysis
 
-Most permanent method, involves actually killing the hair follicles with electricity. Most expensive and painful option. Usually one goes to a clinic, and pays in intervals of, eg, 15 minutes.
-I have found a typical pace to be an average 1 hair follicle per second, so with 1000s of hair follicles on the face it can take a long time. 
-
-There are sketchy ways to [do it DIY for cheap](http://lena.kiev.ua/guestbook/#570){.source-link} if that is your kind of thing.
-
-Depending on your pain tolerance, you will probably want to apply either EMLA (lidocaine 5%) or AMETOP (tetracaine 4%) numbing cream, in addition to taking something like ibuprofen. It is possible to get stronger creams such as Pliaglis (7% lidocaine + 7% tetracaine) but this often requires a prescription.
+Most permanent method, involves actually killing the hair follicles with electricity. Most expensive and painful option.
 
 ## Breast Growth
 
@@ -598,6 +556,30 @@ This person tried it and it seemed to work for them:
 >
 > if your goal is to maximize the ductal scaffold before layering alveolar fullness, wait for budding, then consider progesterone, understanding that its volumetric benefit is unproven and may be subtle or person‑specific
 
+??? note "Notes on Progesterone from Lena (groups.io DIYHRT)"
+
+    > 1. Injectable progesterone is short-acting, must be injected daily.
+    > Oral progesterone is ineffective because most of it is converted to allopregnanolone which common blood tests confuse with progesterone.
+    > Neovagina absorbs meds not as well as a cis-woman's vagina.
+    > Most progestins give various side effects.
+    > Hydroxyprogesterone caproate is not bioidentical.
+    > It's not converted in the body to progesterone (unlike estradiol valerate and estradiol enanthate).
+    > 
+    > 2. Progesterone decreases rate of synthesis of estrogen receptors.
+    > Cis-women are supposed to benefit from that, but goals of MtF are opposite.
+    >
+    > 3. Estradiol develops ducts in milk glands, progesterone develops alveoles.
+    > Most of breast volume is ducts and connective tissue between them.
+    > If an alveole formed (at the end of a duct), that duct will not grow in length anymore. > So, progesterone and Androcur can stunt breast growth.
+    >
+    > 4. Progestogens increase risk of prolactinoma and meningioma (brain tumors).
+    > Progestogens (especially cyproterone acetate), not estrogens (despite mistaken rumor among medical professionals).
+    >
+    > I advise NOT to add progesterone for at least 3 years since starting estradiol injections at least 40 mg/month (not since the very beginning of HRT).
+    >
+    > Or never take progestogens. In cases of complete androgen insensitivity (CAIS),
+    > XY women develop rather spectacularly feminine secondary sexual characteristics though nothing in their bodies makes progesterone.
+
 #### Other
 
 ## Voice
@@ -757,6 +739,44 @@ Unknown efficacy. Inhibits YAP/TAZ pathways. May be used to reduce scarring, but
 
 * Research post by u/darthemofan on u/estrogel: ["Hacking YAP/TAZ mechanosensor against skin aging (in the future)"](https://old.reddit.com/r/estrogel/comments/1bpj9o2/hacking_yaptaz_mechanosensor_against_skin_aging/){.source-link}
 
+## Preserving Fertility pre-HRT
+
+### Sperm Cryopreservation
+
+#### Ensuring quality
+
+- Avoid heat at all costs. No to Sauna/Hottub. 
+- Better to do in winter or spring, to avoid heat.
+- Take zinc supplements
+- Take omega 3 supplements
+- Generally, require 2-4 days of abstinance before storage sessions.
+- You usually need to be tested for STIs. 
+
+#### Basics of Storage
+
+Depending on where you are from, it can be annoying to freeze and store gametes. Typically this is done by finding an IVF clinic that allows storing of sperm. It is possible to move sperm between clinics, but generally it is probably better to choose somewhere with good success rates. Transfer between countries can be difficult. You will generally need to pay an annual storage fee on the order of €200-400/year depending on the place.
+
+The success rates are usually measured as pregnancies in <35yo women, <40yo women, and >40yo women. In a decent place, rated for <35to women are usually around a ~50% chance. Each place likes to measure and report different things though. Also note that most people who do IVF do so because they have fertlity issues, so most likely your rate of success will be higher. If a clinic has "donor success rates" that is usually more representitive. These success rates can be improved with genetic screening methods like PGT-A, and some nombers include it and some don't, but is getting more common (though also usually costs extra).
+
+Main methods are In-Vitro Fertilization (IVF) (incl ICSI), where one does fertilisation in vitro, and In-Utero Insemination (IUI), more affordable but less reliable.
+
+Depending on your sperm quality, you will probably need to have multiple storage sessions. You can store anywhere between 1 and ~5 straws in a single session, each typically good for 1 round of IFV, but may need multiple straws for an IUI session. (IUI is typically far less expensive). Typical is 2-3 sessions, but more can also happen.
+
+
+### Where to Store Gametes
+
+In places like UK and Ireland, the process is kinda slow. As of 2025, most places in ireland no longer offer male gamete cryopreservation without a doctor's note due to storage shortage. UK is hit-or-miss with clinics, and in my experience you will be waiting months to do it.
+
+There are some good IVF clinics in Spain which are worth considering, such as IVI or Instituto Bernabeu, which are much faster, with the drawback of needing to spend a week or two in Spain.
+
+## Methods when trying to preserve fertility
+
+In general, HRT has the most significant effects. However, if you really require not being on it (eg: for fertlity reasons, such as waiting to do gamete storage, or if temporarily stopping HRT to regain fertility), there are some things you can still do, though generally the effects will be less pronounced.
+
+I have read some reports of people applying estrogel on the scalp and washing if off within 5 minutes to have some effect without raising blood estrogen levels too significantly, but there is likely more research that could be done. See link below for some ideas.
+
+[Some ideas from ChatGPT](/sources/chatgpt_no_hrt.html){.source-link}
+
 ## Contributing
 
 To contibute, make an issue on git: [https://git.wikiofdark.art/](https://git.wikiofdark.art/)

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-<ul>
-    <li>Avoid heat at all costs. No to Sauna/Hottub.</li>
-    <li>Better to do in winter or spring, to avoid heat.</li>
-    <li>Take zinc supplements</li>
-    <li>Take omega 3 supplements</li>
-    <li>Generally, require 2-4 days of abstinance before storage sessions.</li>
-    <li>You usually need to be tested for STIs.</li>
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-<h4>Basics of Storage</h4>
-
-<p>Depending on where you are from, it can be annoying to freeze and store gametes. Typically this is done by finding an IVF clinic that allows storing of sperm. It is possible to move sperm between clinics, but generally it is probably better to choose somewhere with good success rates. Transfer between countries can be difficult. You will generally need to pay an annual storage fee on the order of €200-400/year depending on the place.</p>
-
-<p>The success rates are usually measured as pregnancies in <35yo women, <40yo women, and >40yo women. In a decent place, rated for <35to women are usually around a ~50% chance. Each place likes to measure and report different things though. Also note that most people who do IVF do so because they have fertlity issues, so most likely your rate of success will be higher. If a clinic has "donor success rates" that is usually more representitive. These success rates can be improved with genetic screening methods like PGT-A, and some nombers include it and some don't, but is getting more common (though also usually costs extra).</p>
-
-<p>Main methods are In-Vitro Fertilization (IVF) (incl ICSI), where one does fertilisation in vitro, and In-Utero Insemination (IUI), more affordable but less reliable.</p>
-
-<p>Depending on your sperm quality, you will probably need to have multiple storage sessions. You can store anywhere between 1 and ~5 straws in a single session, each typically good for 1 round of IFV, but may need multiple straws for an IUI session. (IUI is typically far less expensive). Typical is 2-3 sessions, but more can also happen.</p>
-
-<h3>Where to Store Gametes</h3>
-
-<p>In places like UK and Ireland, the process is kinda slow. As of 2025, most places in ireland no longer offer male gamete cryopreservation without a doctor's note due to storage shortage. UK is hit-or-miss with clinics, and in my experience you will be waiting months to do it.</p>
-
-<p>There are some good IVF clinics in Spain which are worth considering, such as IVI or Instituto Bernabeu, which are much faster, with the drawback of needing to spend a week or two in Spain.</p>
-
-<h3>Methods when trying to preserve fertility</h3>
-
-<p>In general, HRT has the most significant effects. However, if you really require not being on it (eg: for fertlity reasons, such as waiting to do gamete storage, or if temporarily stopping HRT to regain fertility), there are some things you can still do, though generally the effects will be less pronounced.</p>
-
-<p>I have read some reports of people applying estrogel on the scalp and washing if off within 5 minutes to have some effect without raising blood estrogen levels too significantly, but there is likely more research that could be done. See link below for some ideas.</p>
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-<b>570. Name: </b> <a name="570">larissa</a>
-,<b> City: </b> garwood nj
-<p><b>Comments: </b>
-i am a pre op male to female transexual i have recently started taking female
-hormones what i would like to know is at what point should i start to feel
-that i am making progress toward my goal of becominng what i really want tobe
-a woman i made some progess  as  i have  began to develop breasts i have gone
-from being flat chested to a size 38b i was tickled pink getting my first
-training braand i was like a giddy schoolgirl filling a larger size bra i
-just love and adore my soon to be 38c breeasts and my goal is to be a 38d cup
-i wont realy feel that i made progress until that ugly piece of meat betwen
-my legs is cutoffi have been telling friends and family that i can wait to
-get my hole put in i plan on having my sexchange operatiom overseas in europe
-also have been saying that i cant wait to go abroad and come back a broadi
-just simply love it that my breasts bounce swing and jiggle even when i am
-wearing a good support bra<br/>
-<font><i>Lena:</i> If you are concerned only with breasts and
-genitals then you make a clown out of yourself. Until you <b>complete</b>
-facial electrolysis, most people will consider you a man in a dress regardless
-of any size breasts, what is between your legs, clothing and makeup.
-Only after you complete facial electrolysis (takes about 2 years), you'll make
-a real progress toward your goal.
-Despite deceptive advertising, laser and flash-lamp (IPL) hair removal removes
-hair for longer time than plucking but for no more than 1-24 months
-(usually 2-6 months) after last session, no matter how many sessions.
-The only really permanent method of facial hair removal is needle
-electrolysis. Professional electrolysis costs about $20K. You can do it
-by yourself for free. Several members of the
-Russian-language T* mailing list I run cleared their faces by Do-It-Yourself
-electrolysis at home. No device needed at all. How to:
-<p>
-I got the idea and some tips from Bernadette (docfont@) on the
-unfortunately terminated since then TSDoItYourelfers mailing list,
-I devised even more DIYish :) details.
-Bernadette did it with "Inverness One Touch" device (about $30)
-which consists from 9V battery, variable resistor as current regulator
-and a buzzer (on a simple digital IC) just for convenient count of time.
-The main thing is that it's neither flash, thermolysis nor blend,
-but plain galvanic method, i.e. pure DC, a simple electrochemical process:
-part of water molecules in the body is dissociated to H+ ion (proton)
-and OH- ion, an electron from the needle joins with the H+ ion
-resulting in hydrogen atom, two hydrogen atoms join into hydrogen molecule,
-hydrogen gas bubbles out (too little of it to inflame), OH- ions (i.e. lye)
-remain near the needle (mostly where resistance in lower, i.e. along
-blood vessels), erode follicle and fuse the vessels. Unlike other
-methods of needle electrolysis, galvanic forgives small misses,
-less likely damages skin and gives much higher probability of
-successful killing the follicle on the first try, i.e. way less regrowth.
-Galvanic <b>seems</b> slower (almost a minute per follicle, though really
-it's not slower considering less regrowth) and low-tech, but the real
-reason why pure galvanic is almost never used by professional
-electrologists is that devices for it are too simple and therefore
-unprofitable for device makers and sellers, so they brainwash
-electrologists. Impatient customers add to that and as a result
-endure much more pain. Galvanic not just gives least regrowth and
-least risk of skin damage and equipment is cheapest, galvanic is
-also far less painful.
-Bernadette improved the device by increasing voltage of the battery
-(AC/DC adapter is <b>absolutely not</b> suitable!  not just because of
-safety rules, but because AC power supplies not only 50 or 60 Hz,
-but also harmonics and receives radio-frequencies, they easily
-pass through transformers no matter how much electronics
-and cause unnecessary pain, skin irritation, twitches; they also
-smelt tissue during inserting driving the needle past the target),
-but used the same second electrode - a small metallic plate at a side
-of the needle holder touching it after inserting the needle,
-but the touching disturbs needle placement.
-No such devices here, so I devised another, more convenient way:
-no device at all. A 9V battery, a cheap ammeter (about $7 if new),
-three wires (two of them come with the ammeter), a needle in a DIY
-pen-like holder and a stainless steel spoon (or shovel for serving cake)
-as second electrode, that's all, no switch (important), no variable
-resistor, no electronics (though I do know how, my hobby was
-amateur electronics, my speciality in college was electronics,
-I worked as a computer technician etc.). In this case the simpler the better,
-resist the temptation to make improvements. If you haven't an ammeter
-able to measure current up to 1 mA (milliampere) then buy a cheap Chinese
-pocket-sized digital multimeter, for example on eBay (search for
-"pocket digital multimeter", in the search results choose "Sort by:" -
-"Price + Shipping: lowest first", about $7 with free shipping worldwide,
-looking about like <a href="../multimeter.jpg" target="link">this</a>,
-if same then use the bottom two sockets, at the beginning of each session
-rotate the center switch clockwise for 4 clicks to the 2000 position - then
-current strength is shown as integer number in microAmperes;
-at the end of each session turn the switch back to the OFF position).
-Plus of the battery to the
-spoon, it's very important, else you'll give yourself permanent tattoo
-with rust. Minus of the battery to the ammeter, the probe at the end of
-another wire from the ammeter is good as a needle holder: put a 1 cm long
-piece of shrink-wrap plastic tube 3-4 mm in diameter onto the bare metal tip
-of the probe at the end of the wire, insert the thicker part of the needle
-into the same tube, heat the tube with hot air above a small flame,
-the tube tightens and holds the needle.
-<br/>As usual, facial hair must be grown
-for 3-5 mm above skin surface; before and after each session
-disinfect face, fingers and instruments with alcohol. Sit before a
-magnifying mirror (about 10 cm between face and mirror) with
-good lighting with a lamp directly to the face (it's essential),
-place a clock with seconds near the mirror, put the spoon down onto the floor.
-Pluck a couple hairs with tweezers in order to see how deep follicles are
-and remember how much force you have to apply.
-Slid/insert the needle along a hair until the needle reaches the follicle,
-don't pierce a new hole in the skin. Usually you feel resistance when needle
-reaches the follicle, it's enough deep. Needle can pierce follicle - it's
-admissible, but don't push needle more than 2-3 mm deeper than follicle.
-After insertion of the needle, hold it in place and then (not sooner!)
-step by a bare foot on the spoon completing the circuit.
-Unimportant visible effect: the lye reacts with skin oil making a little
-soap, the hydrogen gas makes foam from it, a little white foam bubbles up
-along the needle. Unlike if a switch is used (abrupt change of current),
-the surface of contact between the foot and the spoon increases
-gradually preventing painful jerk. Adjust current strength
-(by surface of the contact between foot and spoon and strength of
-pressing on the spoon) so that after 30-40 seconds of current
-the hair can be pulled out with tweezers effortlessly without resistance
-(unlike plucking), it's a sign that the follicle was killed.
-A hitch (like when plucking) means a miss or insufficient charge,
-the hair with regrow.
-Current strength in microAmperes multiplied to time of passing the current
-in seconds is called "charge" in microCoulombs. Quantity of lye produced
-with the current is directly proportional to charge.
-The charge per hair must be below 20 thousand microCoulombs,
-else skin is damaged (small scars and indentations forever).
-If 20 thousand microCoulombs = 20 milliCoulombs is not enough
-for easy sliding the hair out then that means that you miss the target,
-more precision is needed.
-<br/>First 10-20 hours will be difficult, but you'll master hitting
-the invisible target, it's not rocket science, others managed.
-Suitable training place is front surface of the chin, but not in the
-pit at the center just below the bottom lip (a relatively painful place,
-as well as mustache, especially along the lip and just under the nose,
-but still bearable without anesthetic; other places are practically
-painless). Don't try to train on the body because hairs there
-are thinner and grow at an acute angle to skin surface, much more
-difficult to insert needle along. Next treated hair must be
-at least 3 mm from previous, don't treat every hair in succession,
-skip, else over-treated skin can be damaged. After first 20-30 hours
-(training), treat all mustache (skipping) at each session
-because hair there are most viable and numerous. Don't move needle
-when current is flowing because with current the needle easily
-melts skin through anywhere past the target. You'll bend needle,
-especially at first - don't throw it away, unbend with another
-pair of tweezers with the ends covered with soft plastic tubes.
-After many bendings-unbendings a needle breaks, then take another needle.
-Pain during inserting usually is a sign of a miss - the needle
-pierced pore surface and went past the target. With the galvanic method
-skin usually doesn't need special care except dis-infecting with
-alcohol before and after each session. Try to avoid water on
-treated areas for 3 days if you can. If you can't then
-don't wipe the skin, let it to dry by itself. In case of scabs
-(like after a scratch, just small and round) don't tear scabs off,
-let them to fall off by themselves in order to prevent scars.
-The second electrode (a spoon, shovel or a plate under a foot) must be
-stainless steel, not aluminium. Copper is less preferable because stains skin.
-Ready-made needles can be bought where electrologists buy them.
-For the beginning 0.004" (0.1 mm) diameter needles (sometimes called "size 4")
-seem optimal.
-Needle tip shape is important. A good (probably the best) manufacturer
-is Ballet, google search for:
-<br/>
-<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Ballet+needles%22+OR+%22Ballet+electrolysis%22" target="link">"Ballet needles" OR "Ballet electrolysis"</a><br/>
-Some other manufacturers are <a href="http://sterex.com/Products/Needles.aspx" target="link">Sterex</a>, <a href="http://WYCneedles.com/" target="link">WYC</a>.
-As last resort an about 0.1 mm diameter wire made from stainless steel,
-tungsten or nichrome can be used instead of ready-made needle.
-Or wires from some dead incandescent lamps - not those conducting current
-to the spiral, but thinner wires welded into the glass rod at the center
-buttressing the spiral. Or from some small wire loops
-(often included into sewing needle sets) used for easy inserting
-a thread into a needle eye. Copper wire is unsuitable instead of a needle
-because too pliant. Ready-made needles are way better than a piece of wire.
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